DEPOIMENTOS PESSOAIS DE AUTORIDADES SOBRE A ATUAÇÃO
TERAPÊUTICA PARANORMAL
DE RONALDO AYRES, ATRAVÉS DA ENERGIA VIRTUAL, NO SÉCULO
XXI
Por Geraldo Sarti
(IPRJ/ABRAP/FEBRAP)
Tradução juramentada para o Inglês
Interviewer
– We are here with Ronaldo Ayres once more as part of
the program on the unconscious and the mysteries of the
mind, and Ronaldo is one of these mysteries. In the
conversation we had in private he didn’t even explain
how all this started. Ronaldo, you are one of the
greatest healers I know. There are also incredible
cases of healing bones, cures for cancer, diseases that
are considered incurable. How did all this start for
you?
Ronaldo
– In the beginning I would feel something strange, but I
didn’t know what was happening, until one day I had a
powerful intuitive feeling that I could cure certain
diseases using my finger or my hand. So what did I do?
I got in contact with the Brazilian Parapsychology
Association in Rio de Janeiro.
Interviewer
– How old were you at the time?
Ronaldo
– At the time when I got in touch with the Association
for research, that was in 1980. So a high level medical
team was created, and this very rigorous and very
serious research process took almost two years. At the
end of their research, the scientists found evidence
that led them to the conclusion that there was some
possibility of activity in the healing field.
Interviewer
– Now Ronaldo, you are not a mystic are you?
Ronaldo
– No, I am not a mystic, I am a natural therapist. I am
paranormal.
Interviewer
– Healing occurs simply through Ronaldo’s hands, through
a beam, a special kind of energy, that comes out… And
you don’t know where it comes from, do you Ronaldo?
Ronaldo
– This energy, they tried to identify it, but
unfortunately they weren’t able to. The only conclusion
they came to is that it works. But the origin of it is
unknown.
Interviewer
– So Ronaldo tell us a bit about the case of that
fifteen year old girl who had a bone
tumor,
didn’t she, and who was going to have her leg amputated.
I would like you to show the x-rays, and there is one
interesting detail, Ronaldo also researches himself. So
he seeks to document everything about himself in
relation to all the cases he has worked with.
Ronaldo
– I have to, as a rule, believe in facts, so I underwent
this research also to convince myself. The case of this
teenage girl, at the time she was fifteen. This was the
first case. Since then we have already been able to
stop thirteen legs and two arms from being amputated.
Interviewer
– That’s incredible isn’t it? In this case, for example,
the doctors had recommended amputation.
Ronaldo
– At this point the girl was fifteen. She was
practicing ballet when she felt a pain in her ankle. So
her mother took her to a doctor, the doctor examined
her, the family doctor, and he said it was nothing. He
prescribed a course of anti-inflammatory and asked her
to use a hot compress on it over the following month.
After that the disease evolved and the situation became
more severe. At this point the girl was taken to a
specialist. In the x-ray the specialist saw the growth,
a growth means a tumor, you know. She was taken to
hospital and had her first operation. It is important
to highlight that all the biopsies were performed by the
best pathologist in Rio de Janeiro at the time. Then
the first operation was done and they extracted the
growth. A few months later, the relapse occurred.
Relapse means that the tumor has come back, that was
the first relapse. Second surgery. In this second
surgery apart from the removal of the tumor the doctors
also performed a bone graft, and they imagined the
situation was under control. But unfortunately it
wasn’t. The situation got even worse.
Interviewer
– And that’s when they got in touch with you?
Ronaldo
– No, not yet. A few months later they performed the
third operation and the second bone graft. The
pathologist was one of the best in his field in Rio de
Janeiro and in Brazil, and with material taken in the
third operation he made the following diagnosis: Tumor
with giant cells. The recurring aggressive nature of
the tumor makes ample segmental resection recommendable.
Do you know what that is? It’s amputation of the leg.
Interviewer
– It’s the worst diagnosis that someone can receive…
Just a minute, excuse me… this is important to show
because that it is one of the most terrible diagnoses,
without showing the name of the person, of course.
Ronaldo
– So the surgeon initially didn’t accept such a violent
diagnosis, amputating the leg of a fifteen year old girl
and started to appeal to last resorts. After almost
sixty five days he had an x-ray taken which I have with
me here and which I will show, and faced with what the
x-ray showed, he wrote an evaluation of all three
operations closing with the comments “We recommend
surgical procedure with resection” and in brackets
“Amputation of the leg”, he stamped it and signed it.
The girl was taken to hospital for the amputation but
was lucky because her father was a friend of mine. So
her father got in touch with me and said “let’s try”
because I have to, on principle, promise absolutely
nothing.
Interviewer
– And you also don’t diagnose conditions do you?
Ronaldo
– No, I don’t diagnose conditions. I would be
committing a crime if I did. It would be considered
illegal practice of medicine. In fact I only treat
patients who are being treated by a doctor and who have
already been given a diagnosis. Another important point
is that my treatment is not aggressive, it does not
conflict with conventional medicine, it runs parallel to
it. But going back to the young lady, then her father
got in touch with me and I promised absolutely nothing,
as I don’t promise to heal anyone. But he decided to
take a chance. He asked the doctor, the doctor who was
treating the girl, and the doctor was against it. Of
course, the doctor was not familiar with this kind of
treatment and maybe to protect the girl, maybe to
protect her from some crazy practices, recommended to
the girl’s father that this should not be done. But
what the father said was “He is going to amputate my
daughter’s leg in forty days anyway, it’s not going to
heal, so I’ll try this treatment.” So we started to
perform the treatment. And luckily… this does not mean
that all cases will respond in the same way, luckily her
body was very receptive to this type of irradiation.
Interviewer
– This x-ray is one of the most important, most
impressive things I have ever seen. How exactly is the
procedure done?
Ronaldo
– For this treatment, to give you an idea, I don’t touch
the patient.
Interviewer
– What you do is a placement of the hands, isn’t it?
Ronaldo
– Oh, yes, of course, I use my finger, my fingers, or my
hand. It depends on the case. An example, the
intracranial tumor that I have here. This patient
underwent conventional treatments, chemotherapy,
radiotherapy, but unfortunately, none of this worked.
Interviewer
– And this was an inoperable tumor?
Ronaldo
– This was an inoperable tumor because of its position,
an intracranial tumor in a sensitive place that made
surgery impossible. The patient already had a prognosis
that indicated limited survival expectation, and so I
was requested to provide him with a death with dignity.
It was actually a doctor friend of mine who asked me to
do this. I explained that my specialty is not giving
people death with dignity, but rather life with dignity.
Interviewer
– Yes that’s very good.
Ronaldo
– He underwent the treatment and fortunately responded
well. The tumor disappeared.
Interviewer
– That’s impressive, impressive.
Ronaldo
– I have the proof here. This is the tumor case. I
don’t know if you will be able to see? This is the
computerized tomography. So as you can see, these paler
points here, and this one here that the arrow is
pointing at is the same tumor, because the tomography is
like a series of slices of the brain. This is how the
patient was before I treated him. Six months after my
treatment, he was already working normally, recovering
over twelve kilos in weight, and look, he was completely
recovered. I mean, there’s an interesting point here,
the tumor was not removed. This is because the tumor is
not the cause, it is the consequence. To remove the
tumor does not mean that you eradicated the problem.
What causes the lesion is what’s in the blood stream.
That’s why immunotherapy is important.
Interviewer
– We are approaching the third millennium aren’t we?
And it’s important that people don’t run away from
these abilities of the mind. Abilities that are not
known, that are not proven by conventional medicine but
that are completely real. Of course, as in all fields,
it is important to separate the wheat from the chaff.
This is why I am very careful with the people I bring
here. I try to first get ample proof, I send people to
undergo treatments and then I bring the person to prove
that it is possible. This type of treatment will
definitely be widely used in the third millennium. There
are also some universities like Stanford University, the
medical research department, that are seeking answers to
this type of alternative treatment that Ronaldo
practices.
Ronaldo
– Now I am going to show the public the case with the
leg. Look, this is the x-ray. This is the x-ray taken
before treatment. The bone was all fragmented. Six
months after my treatment, the bone was completely
recovered. Because of this, amputation of the leg of
the fifteen year old girl was avoided.
Muniz Sodré
Social Sciences professor
Federal University of Rio de Janeiro
I think that regarding these phenomena, there are three
areas that need attention. Firstly there is the issue of
credibility. There is the universal sceptic who does
not believe something even if he sees it. Then there is
the universal believer who says he saw something even
when he didn’t. And there is the person who possesses
paranormal abilities himself who sometimes has
difficulty controlling that which in his body is
undetermined, is uncontrolled. These phenomena are not
something that exists within the realm of control or
absolute determination. I’ve known Ronaldo for many
years and I have been observing him… First of all he is
a characteristically serious person. This phenomenon
that manifests itself in him is really authentic and he
is powerful in producing this phenomenon. Ronaldo is
more of a serene person, he is persistent in what he
does. But he has a scientific mentality, a positivist
mentality, in the sense that he believes in the proof.
So he seeks to document before, during and after the
stages of the process.
Ana Flavia Miziara
Businessperson and software producer
The first time I had contact with Ronaldo it was
fantastic because he has a very great image, a spirit,
and you can sense that he is full of light.
Belô Veloso
Singer and composer
More than being a great professional as a paranormal
practitioner he is a great human being. He is
humanitarian, generous, he is a friend. This is one of
the things that I most admire in Ronaldo.
Narration
Ronaldo Ayres discovered his paranormal abilities when
he was still a child. Recently he has associated his
powers to western medicine to help people with health
problems. The powers that Ronaldo has have already been
proven by the Brazilian Association of Parapsychology.
He is one of the most important alternative therapists
in Brazil. With twenty tears experience, he is a
serious professional who values new treatments.
Elói de Miranda
Economista
I had the opportunity to read a report published by a
panel of doctors led by a psychiatrist who evaluate the
activities of paranormal people one of whom was Ayres
Ronaldo Silva Caldas or Ronaldo, in which patients for
whom there was no recommendable treatment, which is the
euphemism that medicine uses to avoid using the word
terminal. The patients underwent sessions of bioenergy
treatment. And the result, which was recorded according
to scientific methodology with the use of statistical
techniques was surprising. People’s life expectancy was
extended with improved quality of life, others recovered
significantly and others were completely cured.
Carlos Lessa
Economist
Professor, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro
I had throat cancer that developed through my glands. I
was operated and underwent chemo and radiotherapy.
After this process was completed, I was extremely
debilitated. I was a shadow of a human being. At this
point I was introduced to Ronaldo, who was with me
throughout this time. What I can say about Ronaldo,
with whom I spend time once a week, is that he is
connected to my recovery. Now I am practically normal.
I always feel the presence of Ronaldo’s hands, as though
they were producing heat, as though they were producing
something that enters, especially, in the area that was
operated. And during these last two years I would like
to say that I did not have even a cold.
Ana Lima
Clinical Psychologist
I have problems with my knees. They would never heal
because whenever they were almost better I would hurt
them again. I don’t know if this means that the tendons
get stretched, I really don’t know, but the swelling
would never go down. And then I did a series of
treatments with Ronaldo, and at that time he was
developing a cd-rom for treatment at home and he gave me
one of these cd-roms so that I could try it to see how I
would feel. So I would do the treatment with him at his
office and at home I would do the treatment with Virtual
Energy for extra support. After I had finished the
series of treatments, my knee felt much better, and I
continued to use the cd-rom for maintenance, as Ronaldo
recommended.
Elói da Miranda
Economist
One day I woke up feeling like the entrance to my
stomach was on fire and I called Ronaldo and said
“Ronaldo, the situation is really bad”. And he says
“What are you feeling?” and added “how do you feel?” I
say “I feel as though I were attached to the place where
germs are spontaneously generated”. “No, no, stop that.
Where does it hurt?” I answered “At the entrance to my
stomach, it’s burning, it’s going to explode”. He then
said “So are you lying down?” “I am holding hands with
the ectoplasm,” “Elói, calm down, put the phone in your
right hand and hold your left hand above the place that
is hurting, on the hairs, without touching the skin.
Hold on tight.” And then I waited a few minutes, two,
three, I can’t remember. At the most you feel some
heat. “Are you feeling warmth?” and I answered
“But my hand is warm”. So I don’t know how much you
feel or how much you think you feel, but the fact is
that after the treatment was done he said “do you feel
better?” I said “no” “Ok just relax a bit, and later we
will speak again.” I pulled the sheets up and I slept a
deep heavy sleep and awoke to feel the sweet sensation
of the absence of pain.
Claudia Damasceno
Businessperson
During that week I had been having kidney problems and I
was under allopathic medication. But the pain increased
exactly when he was there, because that’s how kidneys
are, you have that thing, those peaks of pain. That’s
when he told me about his work, what he did and he gave
me a treatment, and the pain stopped immediately.
Ana Flavia Miziara
Businessperson and software producer
This energy that he works with, in some way or another
one, is receptive to it. In other words you have some
symptom of this energy that he works with. In my case
for example it was an ear problem, a problem in a very
delicate position; I could feel something like a laser
passing exactly through that area. It felt as though he
was literally reconstructing the bone that had been
ravaged by the tumor. My tomography showed a very large
tumor. It was, I don’t know, ten to fifteen centimeters
wide. I had twenty four sessions with Ronaldo Ayres. I
had surgery as he recommended. During the operation,
the biggest specialists in Latin America in the ear nose
and throat field, when they opened my ear they saw that
my tomography did not match the symptom, in other words
the tumor that was in my ear. Doctors of medicine,
including the University of São Paulo, renowned doctors
in Brazil, as well as doctors from my family because my
family is full of doctors, they are all scientists and
doctors of medicine, and they couldn’t explain it.
Obviously I knew that it had been the sessions with
Ronaldo Ayres.
Elói de Miranda
Economista
I believe that Ronaldo works well with everything that
is somatic, in other words if stress has turned into
chronic pain he is probably capable of relieving that
pain. Now I can’t say to what degree. He says for
instance that he cannot cure panic, alcoholism, drugs
and aftereffects of cerebral vascular accidents, but in
all other areas his energy works. So I want to believe
that each one of us would do well to use Ronaldo’s
bioenergy in prevention, because he is very modest and
usually says that he does not do anything himself. What
he can do is send stimuli to the person’s immune system
so that our capacity for regeneration can perform more
effectively.
Narration
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